The Power Up ⎯ SN.04/EP.01
Going Above And Beyond: Setting New Standards For the Cannabis Industry
Ethereal Gold was born out of a need to provide higher-quality cannabis. Through testing, Bill Fuchs and his family talked to 150 manufacturers, questioned 25 labs, and discovered that the government only tests for potency. Due to the lack of regulation, cannabis products often contain pesticides, solvents, micro toxins, and heavy metals. Over the next few months, Bill and his team developed the Ethereal Gold Standard for full-panel testing beyond potency.
Education around cannabis testing and building trust with shoppers led to a quick expansion. Ethereal Gold now has an e-commerce store, storefront, and multiple self-serve kiosks around Waukesha, WI. Bill shares about their testing standards, “It is something that we have found extremely beneficial. We grew 300% last year.”
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About The Business
Business name: Ethereal Gold Dispensary
President: Bill Fuchs
Location: Waukesha, WI
Website: https://etherealgolddispensary.com
Sales diversification strategy: E-commerce, storefront, self-serve kiosks
About Our Guest
Bill Fuchs, President of Logical Green Solutions, a company that was started to innovate cultivation and energy-saving technology. When the pandemic happened investment in their services slowed down significantly. Around the same time, Bill had shoulder surgery and the only way he was able to sleep through the night was with a surgeon-approved Delta-8 gummy.
That’s when Bill started looking into regulations around potency tests and determined that was insufficient. So the business pivoted to commercial cannabis cultivation solutions and Bill opened Ethereal Gold Dispensary to produce safe, cost-effective products tested to the highest standard in the nation.
Full Transcript
Sean (Thrive): Hello everyone, it’s Sean for Thrive with another episode of The Power Up where I meet with successful small business owners and operators to learn about their business strategy so you can take their insights and level up your own business. Once your business is ready to expand, knowing where to start can be overwhelming. Our guests have some creative solutions for how they’ve tackled tricky problems and turned them into growth opportunities. Now, let’s dive into today’s episode.
Our guest today is Bill Fuchs. He’s the president of Logical Green Solutions, a company that was started to innovate cultivation and energy-saving technology. Once the pandemic happened, investment in their services slowed down significantly. Around the same time, Bill had shoulder surgery, and the only way he was able to sleep through the night was with a surgeon-approved Delta-8 gummy.
That’s when Bill started looking into regulations around potency tests and determined that it is not enough. So the business pivoted to commercial cannabis cultivation solutions, and Bill opened Ethereal Gold Dispensary to produce safe, cost-effective products tested to the highest standard in the nation.
Bill, are you ready to get started today?
Bill (Ethereal Gold Dispensary): Absolutely, let’s do it.
Sean: Alright, so fill in the gaps here. Quite a pivot. Maybe tell us a 20-second overview of what Logical Green Solutions was before the pandemic and what was the impetus for that transition?
Bill: Sure. Prior to the pandemic, we were working in LED lighting and energy-saving technology. That evolved into vertical cultivation technology with rolling racks, fertigation, irrigation, LED lighting for people, etc. In fact, as of February 2020, we thought we were going to be doing great. We went to the first Wisconsin Cannabis Expo, had a booth, and two presentations. Usually, a good presentation for us is 20 to 30 people; we had 100 people sitting, 150 standing. It was a five-hour trade show, and they were only expecting 1,500 people. We had 3,500 people go through in five hours. We made the mistake of going out of that show and saying, “Guys, this is going to be a great year. We’re positioned really well with energy-saving technology and cultivation technology.”
Then that night, I felt a little warm, sweated through six T-shirts, and was hacking around for three days with a fever. Turns out we were early adopters of COVID. I picked up COVID along with two people we were working with. Found out from one of the architects who went for surgery in August that he had antibodies from the same time. He called me up and said, “Hey, congratulations.” While we like to be early adopters of technology, not so much on COVID. I’d say that was worse than the influenza we just dealt with.
Anyway, we got out of the trade show, and our next trade show was a 6,500-person event we’d been in for 15 years. We usually generated between 70 and 74% of our leads at the trade show for the year. We had a 20×40 booth, four presentations, and it opened on the first day of the pandemic. Normally, we’d have 6,500 people; they had 750 vendors and only 200 attendees showed up in two days because of the lockdown with COVID. It was crickets. That was a wake-up call.
We ended up pivoting because cultivation was suffering; the price of flower had commoditized so much. Fortunately, that started to come back up a little bit, which is great. We went into temperature detection for a while. The temperature detection had eight sales in eight states over four months, then vaccines came out and killed that industry.
Meanwhile, as you mentioned, I blew up my shoulder, hated oxy, talked to my surgeon, and he said, “Hey, just check the testing, make sure the products you take are tested, but try a Delta-8 or Delta-9 gummy.” I had my first Delta-9 gummy and slept through the night because I had to sleep sitting up on the couch for two months. It really messed up the shoulder. I’ve got three pins and a redone rotator cuff. That was the best thing that happened because I tried my Delta gummy, slept through the night, and felt refreshed.
We dove into testing. We were down from 14 people to core family, myself, my two sons, and my wife, who works part-time. We went into testing over 150 manufacturers and 25 labs and found out that the government only requires testing for potency, which, if you go to a bar, would be equivalent to getting three shots of clear alcohol that says 180 proof, 80 proof, 80 proof. You take the first one, 80 proof Everclear, which is nasty. You take the next shot, which is 80 proof Tito’s vodka, which is not bad. As a consumer, you see a third shot that says 0 proof, so you expect Tito’s vodka, but instead, it’s harsher, and you actually go blind because you just drank moonshine with wood alcohol. The government only requires potency testing, so you can get pesticides, solvents, microtoxins, mold, mildew, heavy metals, and it doesn’t get tested on the standard testing.
We found that as a big differentiating factor. We did a lot of research over the next four or five months, signed up with top manufacturers, and the Ethereal Gold standard was born, which every one of our products has that complete full panel testing. It’s easy to find right on the tab with the products on our website, and when you’re in person, you can see the COAs (Certificates of Analysis).
It’s something we’ve found extremely beneficial. We grew 300% last year. We now have etherealgolddispensary.com, a physical location in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and recently launched automated kiosks for self-serve. We have one in a mall in Brookfield, one in a music venue and bar in Waukesha, and one we placed in January for 24/7 sales on our best sellers. We just launched our fourth machine in a liquor store in Wales, Wisconsin. We grew 300% last year and are ramping up even faster.
Sean: That’s great, just a few changes. You and I are both actually at a trade show exactly when COVID started. I was there the day before it was fully publicly announced, and then the second day of the same trade show it was a ghost town. I remember exactly what you’re referring to. Same boat, it was devastating. It was crazy. No hand sanitizer on the first day, hand sanitizer on the second day, and no one was shaking hands or anything like that.
You mentioned you grew 300%. Would you say you can attribute that growth to anything in particular, like a sales channel, or is it just organic? Where did that really come from?
Bill: The good news is it’s all been organic through SEO and word of mouth. The bad news is that the reason for that is that we thought we were going to get $122,000 of ERC money from consultants that told us that, and we got none because we’re a family-owned business. We’ve been bootstrapping. We have had no paid marketing yet, but we continue to knock it out of the park with SEO and in-person sales. It’s been a very positive growth pattern. We’re looking to get to the next step where we can actually get some paid marketing.
Sean: Go back to what you just mentioned about ERC money. What is ERC money? Is that some type of loan or something? Can you explain that?
Bill: No, it’s actually a government grant that came out during the pandemic. ERC stands for Employee Retention Credit. If you retained employees and kept them working full-time, you were supposed to turn that over to the government, and then they gave you a check.
For example, Hooters got money, large companies got money, and other businesses got money. We didn’t find out until too late that because we’re a family business, we got nothing. It’s a grant, not a loan, so you don’t pay it back. That was designated for our runway, and unfortunately, even though we’re all W2 employees, we did not qualify. Very challenging as a business owner. Other small business owners who are family will understand the pain and suffering.
Bill: No, it’s actually a government grant that came out during the pandemic. ERC stands for Employee Retention Credit. If you retained employees and kept them working full-time, you were supposed to turn that over to the government, and then they gave you a check.
For example, Hooters got money, large companies got money, and other businesses got money. We didn’t find out until too late that because we’re a family business, we got nothing. It’s a grant, not a loan, so you don’t pay it back. That was designated for our runway, and unfortunately, even though we’re all W2 employees, we did not qualify. Very challenging as a business owner. Other small business owners who are family will understand the pain and suffering.
Sean: So the fact that it’s a family-owned business with family and staff prevented you from pursuing this money?
Bill: Yes. As the majority owner, I did not qualify, and neither did any of my family members, even if they’re contracted or paying W2 taxes. That was not what we were told by the consultants, who turned out to be looking for retainer fees. There are quite a few people like that.
Sean: How do you navigate something like that from a financial planning perspective for the next year? Walk us through what happened and how you fixed that.
Bill: We were already nine months into it when we found out the bad news. We had planned a runway based on the $122,000, so we just put it on company and personal credit cards and personal debt. At nine months, we were growing quite well and getting a good response. We made a determination that bootstrapping with credit card debt is a terrible way to start a business. This is the fourth business I’ve started. I wouldn’t recommend that. It’s better to multiply what you think you need by three for reality.
We’ve been fortunate to drive revenues fast enough that we now qualify for some lending. We moved from WooCommerce to Shopify, started working with Thrive on inventory, and made technological steps to continue growth at an accelerated pace. We’re looking for more competitive funding, like longer-term, lower-interest loans to do a takeout loan for what we have currently and continue growth. Every time you lower your rate and improve cash flow, it drops right to the bottom-line profitability.
Sean: Do you see problems pursuing funding given the industry you’re in?
Bill: We’re a legal hemp drive, federally legal and legal in Wisconsin. Each state operates as its own little system, so you have to be aware of the rules and regulations about what can be sold, bought, and possessed. It’s about stepping back from the leaves of the trees, looking at the whole forest, and coming up with a game plan.
Sean: You mentioned the Ethereal Gold Standard. Is that an accredited stamp of approval recognized by an organization, or is it marketing lingo?
Bill: It’s our requirement for any product we carry and sell, but it’s not an accredited stamp. You’re the second person to mention, maybe we should get a stamp like DLC does with lighting or UL does with building assemblies. That’s not on our strategic plan for the next five years. If anyone wants to take the lead, I’d gladly help, but it’s not my area of expertise.
Sean: For consumer confidence, how do you communicate the Ethereal Gold Standard?
Bill: Originally, we set it up for those in the health and wellness sector of cannabis products. We were surprised that even customers who want the strongest product care about it. We have a repeat customer who said, “You’re the only place that gives a darn.” Our dispensary setups are like post-prohibition speakeasies, warmer, set up by cannabinoid and experience, not product type or flashing lights. Competitors push daily specials even if customers don’t want them. Because of their lack of testing, customers might not get the same experience every time, even when buying the same product.
When customers buy from us, it’s consistent. We’re always helpful and educate customers because 30 to 40% of the population doesn’t understand the difference between hemp and marijuana.
Sean: Do you have a loyalty program or a stamp card?
Bill: Absolutely, yes. We have a loyalty program that rewards repeat customers with points that can be redeemed for discounts or exclusive products. We also engage with our customers through educational events and workshops to help demystify cannabis products and their effects. Our goal is to build trust and long-term relationships.
Sean: That’s fantastic. Education is so important in this space, especially with so much misinformation out there. How do you stay ahead of regulatory changes and ensure your products remain compliant?
Bill: It’s a full-time job. We have a dedicated compliance officer who monitors state and federal regulations daily. We also maintain close relationships with our testing labs and legal advisors to ensure we’re always up to date. When regulations change, we adjust our product lines and processes accordingly. Transparency is key, so we communicate any changes to our customers promptly.
Sean: It sounds like you’ve built a solid foundation. What’s next for Logical Green Solutions and Ethereal Gold Dispensary?
Bill: We’re focused on expanding our retail footprint with more automated kiosks in high-traffic locations. We’re also developing proprietary formulations that meet our Ethereal Gold Standard.
On the cultivation side, we’re exploring sustainable energy solutions to reduce costs and environmental impact. Ultimately, we want to be a leader in safe, effective cannabis products and innovative cultivation technology.
Sean: Bill, thanks so much for sharing your journey and insights. It’s inspiring to see how you turned challenges into opportunities and built a thriving business.
Bill: Thanks, Sean. It’s been a pleasure. I hope our story helps other small business owners navigate their own challenges.

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